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Comment by Hamid
2006-04-23 00:28:42

Don’t you think, change in a system always come from outsite? Won’t joining civil services make you a part of it?

 
Comment by Jalal
2006-04-24 01:08:56

Well, I rejected a job at the civil service because I knew change can never be brought from the inside.

Also, I met up with a couple of Indians a couple of days ago, my first experience with people from across the borders, and there is so much in common.

So much. So much. Not understandable at all.

 
Comment by umar
2006-04-24 12:41:36

Hamid, do you expect someone from outside to come and change the system? Why would anyone else care?

Jalal, one has to be highly persistent and dedicated, otherwise it’s very easy to mix up with sand.

 
Comment by Dost
2006-05-06 02:44:43

Hey,
I have few friends from Pak,and its amazing how much history we share in common but for the partition.History is History.
Lets work together and focus on a brighter relations.
About the corruption,yes its a big problem in both the countries.But now,few IIT educated students have formed a political party,targetting the elite population here.Hope they win their ambitions and goals.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=lok+paritran

 
Comment by Erum
2006-05-15 13:49:02

Umar, I storngly believe that there is only on thing constant and that is change. It can be brought about from the inside and outside both. But both ways require a lot of sacrifice as individuals and as society. Are we really willing to sacrifice even an iota to bring about change. No. We are a lazy nation who can only whine and not act. Who wants to give a driving test when a 500 note will do the job. Who wants to pay for a challan when we can bribe. Who wants to earn a degree and not buy it. Not us. Change begins at home. Let’s just hope for the better.

 
Comment by oldhippy
2006-05-18 15:03:54

i have seen and done my share of worrying and whining and wondering and wandering. i have two views on the situation if you’ll bear with me. one, throughout history things have never been perfect. not only they have not been perfect, they have been way worse than they are today. and people living in their respective times have worried about them and tried to improve them. on some fronts they have succeeded, on others not only they’ve failed miserably,(khai hai insaan say takkar aisi, adya’n kay matho(n) say lahoo jari hai)they’ve made things worse for the generations that followed. so spending sleepless nights fretting, fuming, complaining, etc., will not help at all. i’m sure you all know that. neither will indifference and apathy. what may help is personally doing things right. all those matters that erum mentioned can be done right and should be done right. provided it doesn’t get you in unnecessary, or let’s say excessive, trouble with your wife, or mother or sister for that matter (troubles are all unnecessary. experience talks). it’s a fine line between expected trouble and that which is just a little bit too much and that which creates problems at home. we don’t want to be idealists and at the same time we don’t want to contribute towards the downward spiral of the situation. in short, keeping our own person and house in order and being content that we have done no wrong without feeling guilty or helpless for not being able to change the whole society is one way.

the other path is a little tricky, the kind that you mentioned and that the others disagreed with. not that it’s impossible, just that we are not brought up to take up any challenge other than the ones that will lead us to making good financially. there are many factors that are not necessary to dwell upon now. related to what you suggested is organizing teams of volunteers, also consisting people from the very departments we have problems with. see, not everybody is inefficient or dishonest or spineless every where. it’s just a matter of them getting the opportunity to show they can help. once there are teams of young, ambitious, educated young people, some of them will be from elite households, to coordinate with these various govt. depts. on behalf of the people and over a period of time it’ll be seen they are serving a purpose. then things, and attitudes, are bound to change. an extension of this approach is to get our school age children into volunteering for the neighbourhood matters. all around our cities there are so many matters needing young people’s attention, if only our teen age children begin helping out we can do away with half the govt. i was a boy scout when young and remember how hard we worked, and had fun too. wish we had a more influential boy scout organization. i can take pride in the fact that i have instilled public service thoughts in my children and they are with their actions almost model young people. only regret is they’re not there to take care of their “abai mohalla” and “ahl i mohalla” in north nazimabad anymore. they are in this huge concrete jungle they call houston which, as it so happens has enough low income, crime ridden neighbourhoods, also can use them as much as karachi can, and does now and then.
if any of you know someone of consequence in the police dept put us in touch and i’ll explain how the explorer’s program of the sherrif’s dept over here puts young people to use and how with a little effort it can be done in most cities of our respective countries - india, pakistan and bangla desh.

 
2007-10-21 03:03:57

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